A boss who said he was unable to give a new employee time off for a pre-scheduled non-refundable vacation that was discussed before the employee was hired has come under fire online.
In a post that went viral on Reddit with over 21.3 thousand upvotes and 5,000 comments, user Artistic-Comment20 explained the incident.
The post was posted to the “Am I the Asshole” subreddit group, where users are asking the community to weigh in on a variety of scenarios and situations.
The OP (original poster) said he discussed non-refundable vacation with the person applying for the job, a woman named Lacey.
The PO said they would try to accommodate him and the job was offered to Lacey.
However, Lacey found out she hadn’t been granted time off and opted to quit, causing the PO to wonder if he was wrong.
“I’m the manager of a small team at a large company. Every manager does their team planning. I hired Lacey last week,” the post read. “Lacey told me when she accepted the job that she already had plans for a non-refundable vacation at the end of May. I told her that I had done the program and would give it a try. accommodate.”
“I couldn’t accommodate it at all,” the poster said. “There is already another member of the team. I set up the schedule and was very surprised by an email from Lacey regarding her unscheduled vacation. I informed her that we are not didn’t have the flexibility and that she had to work.”
The PO went on to say that Lacey said she wouldn’t lose $2,500 to work rather than go on vacation.
She also said she had already received an offer from one of the jobs she had turned down, a job that promised her vacation was safe.
The PO tried to defend their decision, but said they were called into his boss’s office to discuss the situation. They added that people should understand that if you’re new to a job, you’re last for the holidays.
Reddit users were quick to condemn the OP and demanded to know what company they worked for in order to avoid applying for jobs themselves.
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FSLA) does not require payment for time not worked, such as vacation, sick leave, or federal or other holidays, according to a report from the U.S. Department of Labor.
“These benefits are matters of agreement between an employer and an employee (or the employee’s representative),” the Department of Labor report said.
Reddit users also said that if they were Lacey in the OP position, they would feel like the job offer was on the condition that they accept they weren’t available due to their non-refundable vacation.
“YTA (You are the a**hole). As a hiring manager for 20 years, I would never have done this,” Reddit user Pineapple_Mango_13 wrote. “She told you. ‘Non-refundable’ means ‘non-negotiable’. She had options. You needed her more than she needed you. got caught.”
Another user said he wouldn’t want to work for a place that couldn’t meet previous commitments made before hiring.
“When I start a new job, I expect them to honor my pre-planned vacation,” wrote Reddit user Jayclaw97. “If they say no, I’m out. Any employer who doesn’t respect the fact that my life isn’t all about work is not an employer I would want to work for.”
“What kind of business is this? OP was called into his boss’s office,” wrote user Aggressive-Fudge5759. “He may be about to learn that this is the kind of company that does not tolerate middle managers refusing to honor pre-booked vacations for new employees. The new employee could have gone through over OP’s head to HR, but most likely recognized the red flag and decided she didn’t want to work for him.”
Another person who claimed to have HR experience concluded that the PO was the person in the wrong.
“[Thirty-five] years of HR/Payroll experience here, wrote user WorkInProgress1040.
This Reddit post is one of many that have gone viral recently. This one sparked a discussion about a company that timed employees bathroom breaks and mooring allowances for people who took too long. Last month, Reddit users backed a woman for using a fake car key to stop her unemployed husband from driving his car.
The internet also slammed a doctor who complained that his girlfriend’s family called him by his first name instead of using the title “doctor”.